Should Rox Diner Get a Beer and Wine License?

The owners of Rox Diner expanded their business model to dinner and patrons requested beer and wine with their meals.


It is an issue that seems to be bubbling up to the top like champagne in recent weeks. Alcohol licenses.

Recently, the , after a member mistakenly gave the license back. Also Boston City Councilor At-Large Ayanna of getting alcohol licenses.

In West Roxbury, the is seeking to gain a beer and wine license to compliment their dinner menu. When first opened, the Rox Diner was a breakfast to lunch place, and then expanded to include dinner.

Tonight Anthony Ross, representing John Fortin and Paul Louderback, owners of the Rox Diner, will discuss their plans to apply for a beer/wine license, at the .

Fortin and Louderback said many patrons requested beer and wine with their meals, and they determined that dinner was not viable without a beer and wine license. There is a distinction with alcohol licenses between having a beer/wine license and a full-liquor license, which permits a business to serve things such as gin, vodka, whiskey and more.

Fortin and Louderback have a beer/wine license at where the operating hours extend to 9 p.m., which is what they want for their Centre Street diner.

The West Roxbury Neighborhood Council will meet tonight at 7:30 p.m. at the community room. All WRNC meetings are open to the public.

So what do you think - should the Rox Diner get a beer and wine license?

Stephen Smith June 26, 2012 at 02:40 PM
All I can say in regards to Mr Murphy is that the West Roxbury Neighborhood Council gives people the opportunity to express their opinion on among other things liquor licenses. They get to do it in their own neighborhood instead of having to take time off & do it in City Hall. I happen to think input from the neighborhood on issues is a good thing and if that makes me antiquated then so be it
Joe Murphy June 26, 2012 at 05:23 PM
But I have attended your meetings, and seen what your group has done.....I remember how intrusive you questioning was over IScream works. I am merely stating the truth. Only two neighborhood councils exist in the city...there should be 24 members in ours yet the head chose to keep it at 12. He has been there since Flynn appointed him at the outset...so yes it is antiquated. You have not ever spoken for me on my behalf....the council should be removed. You allow banks to enter freely, but someone who wants to add on for a growing family, or God forbid open a decent, "usable" business gets dragged through the mud. Your group should have NO SAY on the matter....that is what we have a licensing board for. Keep in mind...I have NEVER tried to open a business or or ad on to my house thank God, I can onlt imagine the backlash.
David Ertischek June 26, 2012 at 05:43 PM
Thank you for your comments and opinions - keep 'em coming... I think the WRNC provides a valuable asset to the community by representing the community, and like any representative entity or individual, not everyone is always going to agree with their opinions. WRNC's votes are not binding, and are looked upon as recommendations. I think that if we got rid of neighborhood associations we'd have some major trouble locally in neighborhoods because Boston is too big to not have neighborhoods talking about their local issues. It would also be tougher to learn about things coming out of the neighborhoods. The WRNC does not provide alcohol licenses, those are from the city and state, which base their decisions upon recommendations from local officials, boards, and associations. I think the bigger problem is that there is a limit on alcohol licenses. Is that needed? I can understand not having a package store on every corner. I could see city and state supporting the Rox Diner's application for a beer and wine license, as it looks like it compliments their dinner business model. I also like and appreciate Stephen Smith's probing questions - questions need to be asked. Of course, I'm a journalist and support asking questions. Also the WRNC cannot stop businesses from coming in such as banks. You start with landlords on that one. We do have a lot of banks.
Kim R. June 26, 2012 at 05:48 PM
I havent eaten there yet, but wine and beer is sufficient. It helps the pallet savor every bite.
VPrescott June 27, 2012 at 09:06 PM
Chef Johnnie and his partner Paul put everything they have into their venues, heart & soul & especially their dollars. Their signature dishes are outstanding. Let their business thrive in a down economy or they won't be here in our 'hood forever! There are greener pastures but for their asking...


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